And his email says, it seems we are being targeted. We brought up several things from the letters with James McDonald that night, and he was just dismissing everything we brought up. Hear the dramatic and sovereignly orchestrated story of how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest. And eventually, and I know you send them with a lot of safeguards, so they couldnt be forwarded. . Like, I cant believe this. Great! Malachi 2:16 has been harmfully interpreted & practiced based on twisted translations, Malachi 2 clearly talks about husbands dealing treacherously w their wives these husbands are the ones who hate and divorce 16 The man who hates and divorces his wife, says the Lord, the God of Israel, does violence to the one he should protect, says the Lord Almighty. Maybe not as profoundly as somebody whod been involved so long, but it was powerful. Jared Prayed for you just now. So Rick was in the meeting, as were others, and they were defending saying the elders should not have the letters. Is that how it went down? She keeps demanding I tithe to her and she will ask god to bless me. And were talking about a private jet. So far, I feel the leadership of my current church embodies this well. So if youre listening, you need and you havent read those letters, you need to go back and Dean Butters, I mean that one has to be just the emotional impact of the the bullying and the abuse, and then even a video where he mocked a very well known Christian leader because she was getting married in midlife for the first time and mocking her for never having sex before. Whether he was going to resign or have an opportunity to resign or, you know, terminate his employment was to be determined at that point. The G in freemasonry stands for generation. Why would anyone who follows Jesus Christ care what Generation Church thinks about anything? Julie Roys lives for her anti gospel, anti authority, man hating bias - even partnering with shock jocks like Mancow Muller or worse. Please dont read something into a story thats not there. Just saying a lot of vile things. Im sorry, before a so called board.removes a man of God they must first consider the fruit of his ministry. There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. Guest Bios Show Transcript Spiritual abuse has become an increasingly hot topic, as more and more stories of bully pastors and hyper-controlling, Guest Bios Show Transcript After years spent in an abusive church, how do you heal? And then saying, I need a private jet to fly me home. But over there, you know, I, you know, six, seven people who had read the letters, probably more than that by the time, and we talked about what was in the letters. Its come to this. So I had a pretty good sense of what the meeting was gonna be from that point on. But that is my hope. Julie can and has spoken for herself, but I must speak up against loaded questions like this. And I said, I understand that. Our marriage improved incredibly after we both agreed that neither one of us was Jesus. year. Only Gods opinion is what counts. Its a reference to sex magik and the leaders have given a hat tip to their god right in the church name. And I have, you know, probably probably six weeks later, less than, probably four weeks later or something I I apologized for signing that. To donate, James MacDonald Ministries June 13, 2021 Email, Ed Stetzer Named Dean of Biola Universitys Talbot School of Theology, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Landon MacDonald to Lead Arizona Megachurch Despite Allegations of Abuse When at Harvest Bible Chapel, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. *Correction: A previous version of this story incorrectly reported that Visconti and Generation Church had deleted their social media accounts. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. Because it was still a time when many elders were not admitting any of the wrongs that they had done. I really am so very sick of these self-righteous, insensitive, insulting church leaders who think they are the only ones who have a hardwire connection to God preaching on the subject of wives submit to your husbands while they leave out the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader and was misleading us in a very unqualified way. #JRgossipslut #JRcancerinChristsbody. H arvest Bible Chapel and founding pastor James MacDonald have announced that they plan to drop their lawsuit against The Elephant's Debt bloggers and Julie Roys after a court today denied. And I know it was a battle. And man, if you go back and listen to this morning, morning show I I just, I remember turning on the radio and hearing this, you know, Old MacDonald had a call, e-i, e-i, o This young man had put together it only Mancow can can deliver something the way that he does. The Asbury Revival Is Over. The Lord made it really clear. I was there at HBC & witnessed it. And you couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the larger public. I feel that our beginnings, KJV or influences kept many people locked in to the Old Testament, with all of its Thou Shalt nots. One person suggested reading the New Testament first for a change and then read the Old Testament for the beginnings, the stories and allegories and basically manmade superstitions and misogynies. Dr. John Street, the head of counseling at MacArthurs The Masters University, takes a harder line. He has always been a total its all about me. Now, now James is saying, oh, Mancow edited this to say something that it really didnt say. James MacDonald Suspends New Home Church Network Julie Roys September 29, 2020 Seven months after launching a Home Church Network (HcN) for those who "struggle to get to church or to stay in church," former celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, is suspending the program. That would be acceptable teaching. Great! And youre going to hear all about what happened in those meetings and the strong arm tactics that McDonald used to try and get his way. What does the bible say about that? And I remember being in the meeting thinking, I cant believe were arguing about this. Jennifer One is, I dont want people to give up on the church. I at least heard of it from somebody by that point. You did you have any idea that that this was out there, and might get aired? 2. If this passage defines what a strong husband looks like, I think most of the issues take care of themselves. Thats about my attitude lately. So appreciate that and appreciate your humility. I know its your hope too, Dan, and I just want to thank you. This is not my judgment but that of his elders from HBC. According to Harvest Bible Chapel pastor James McDonald, former Moody Radio host Julie Roys and bloggers Ryan Mahoney and Scott Bryant published and helped publicize false and damaging financial . James MacDonald, who was recently fired as senior pastor at Harvest Bible Chapel, is now facing an allegation of sexual misconduct by the church's former worship leader. But it was dark. Christians should stop feeding these people. I acknowledge my sin to you. We dont know what it would look like tomorrow. I have them up at my website if you want to see those. The multi-campus Harvest Bible Chapel in greater Chicago along with founder James MacDonald, has slapped several former workers and independent journalist Julie Roys with a defamation lawsuit alleging the publication of false information about the church, its finances and governance that resulted in the loss of 2,000 members. Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Well she finally called Julie Jezebel Roys I invited Julie to appear in a public forum before and interested audience and answer for the many many lies she has told about me and my family as well as her bullying of anyone who opposes her or stands with us. And I said, Listen, I get it. Anne Green, who is married, alleged that MacDonald touched her inappropriately on a private plane in 2005. If you read his letter, he was going to publish his letter. All my legal fees got paid. . If you wind back and in in elder meetings, I remember it being said by several several people, years before, if people start arguing the process, you know, you have them right up there arguing in the process. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. . So then James McDonald flies in, right? And we had consensus from everybody in the room that James McDonald was not qualified to as an elder and that his employment at Harvest Bible Chapel was over. A man of God who just wanted to take a vacation with his family, has the right to use church money which is his only source of income. He surrounded himself with yes men and used intimidation tactics to keep people in line. After you guys. And everyone who stayed just drank the Kool-Aid. It was so much easier to read and understand. It was really it was a painful meeting, it was a was an eye opening meeting as well though. He scared me in bible college I wanted nothing to do with him. And that was a big question. Can you say what was in that letter? And I just remember my first feeling, you know, just honestly, relief. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. So Rick had been there 29 plus years. Because when you report on this for months, you feel the pain of the people that are involved. She was powerful and wise., Similarly, popular marriage and sex author, Sheila Wray Gregoire, wrote to TRR, The idea that a man can only be happy in a marriage when a wife is weaker than him shows that his idea of manhood is an extremely fragile one., As reported by TRR earlier this week, Visconti has publicly announced that he is being mentored by James MacDonald, and MacDonald has preached at Generation Church numerous times this past year. It basically says Jesus is as real as Santa Claus. And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. I shouldnt be doing this. You know, Ive been here the whole time. I believe it was from Mancow who texted me. (God) says, the prudent see danger and take refuge. One, its impossible, and were gonna get killed, were gonna get slaughtered on that. And by that time Harvest was 30, in its 31st. Also, if youre in the market for a car, I encourage you to check out my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. Theres still one more thing I want to ask about. I look back at those meetings. Well, again, joining me today is Dan George, a former elder at Harvest, and one of only two former elders whos apologized to me personally, for some of the nasty things that were said about me when I was reporting on the church and James McDonald. And it was a pretty tough meeting. I mean, I got exonerated rather quickly. It didnt sit right with me when I heard about it, that the church was suing you, and the Mahoneys, and the Bryants. And this still disheartens me, because the people of Harvest, who we were supposed to be overseeing at that point, we were silent on that weekend, because we couldnt come to an agreement about what we would do. Im Julie Roys. The elder board of Harvest Bible Chapel formally apologized to independent journalist Julie Roys and several former members, months after joining founder James MacDonald in a defamation lawsuit accusing them of publishing false information about the church's management and finances last fall. There were six people who were brave enough, vulnerable enough to write letters. And in those letters like Jacob Ross, who was the bodyguard of James McDonald. And he conspired with these staff to bring these letters because they all just were out to get James. That didnt happen. Wives submit to your husbands. 28 Feb 2023 13:40:27 I said, Sandy, Im so sorry, for what happened on my watch. I stepped into a conference room. The whole crooked machine needs to be brought down. I encourage you to talk to Christian doctors who are fearful of extreme under no circumstances legislation that now forces molested preteens to give birth, and makes it difficult to treat a septic Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? Well, you know, we laugh about it. Dan resigned from the Harvest elder board in March 2019, calling for reform. James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 14, 2021. I see that as just simply implicating a larger group and a conspiracy to use church money for stuff that was never intended. "I was sitting in the back seat. You can imagine it wasnt it wasnt long before the elders were, you know, talking and I dont remember the timing exactly. And, and the drama begins. The Asbury Revival Is Over. This is going amongst the elders now. And there were meetings on Wednesday, where James McDonald was informed of the decision of the elder board. Because Julie, I knew that, even if Id gotten the chance to read it in front of Harvest, which would have been really hard, but would have been healing to people. The Roys Report is a Christian media outlet, reporting the unvarnished truth about what's happening in the Christian community so the church can be reformed and restored. Well, Dan, like I said, on an earlier podcast that I had with Mancow Muller, I was hoping to be done with James McDonald and reporting on Harvest months ago. We STILL confuse sex and gender, which leads to conflating a lot of issues when discussing this. When I did, I told her letters were coming in, would she consider writing it. And as people rotated through, there were newer people on the board, and they wouldnt have really had a lot of access to to James McDonald. I knew I had to do it. On Thursday, the seventh, I got a text from one of the elders who said, Call me if you can before such and such a time. But like I said, Hes really working hard to rewrite history. There was just an absolute refusal to rebuke him publicly. James Macdonald is a wolf and sadly so many have been fooled by this charlatan. We will talk through it. So that we could live in freedom. And I was still on the elder board, we shrunk the elder board that next week down to nine men. And I gotta tell you, the people of Harvest, the people who were there before, the people who were still there, were so forgiving. James MacDonald and Harvest: Years of Discord . The elder board is still in the dark. He says, Well, for when I kept silent my bones wasted through my groaning all day long for day and night, your hand was heavy upon me. I didnt know these things were going on, but Im so sorry. I didnt, I didnt argue with him. Then, referencing his arbitration with Harvest, in which he won about $2.5 million, along with all digital and physical assets of Walk in the Word, MacDonald writes: When we won the arbitration and regained access to our teaching ministry, it was in shambleslike a model plane that had flown so beautifully, being returned with report of a crash, when in reality an envious child had dashed it against the rocks just out of sight.. And my wife, my wife and I looking at each other and going are we really doing this? Yeah Cynthia. But as, as these excerpts of James speaking as, as James did, to so many people knew that, that this was the way he really, really spoke and who he really was. Whoever said the dumbest thing had to take off an, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation. We are so embarrassed and disgusted by his gross actions in the last 30 years. Sin has real consequences and sometimes those consequences are permanent. Dan currently is an executive and leadership coach and the founder of Front Seat Leadership. Because your article seemed to conflate all these things. What I especially find troubling is this: How come nobody has talked about the false doctrines that MacDonald has been preaching??? Thanks! I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. And then immediately after I felt that relief, I thought of Betsy Corning. Both are true. Okay. The airing accelerated the timeline. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? If not, youre probably looking at what Paul latter in the chapter describes as an immature child. Although as soon as, pretty much after Mancow aired it. Thats right. There was a push for him to be able to resign, and to negotiate on several points that we now know what have you know, let him walk away with millions of dollars. Marin, (We're a church of around 4,000 members & regular attenders.) So, Julie Roys decided to do what she does best - investigative journalism - in order to find out the truth in the world of m. Others as well, who were defending and saying, well, the elders shouldnt even have these letters we had agreed, they go to the reconciliation team. Judson University is shaping lives that shape the world. And the pain is overwhelming. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/898.htm bagad (treachery aka abuse) is used FIVE times in Malachi 2:10-16!!! I mean just absolutely devastating stories and, and feeling the pain. Receive E-Devotionals and Ministry Updates. And you know, Rick Donald was one of the people. Dan, thank you for being a humble man of God. Production and performance have replaced biblical exegesis and fellowship. It looks like these contemporary churches are just fundamentalists in different garb. She wanted me to look at it. But, at whatever time it was, you know, midnight in India or something sitting in the lobby, I sent an email, put my name on it, heres my statement. If the church wants to regulate marriage, let them say you cant get remarried in their church if you are already married in the eyes of the church. The audio recording that the elders reference was aired on popular Chicago radio personality Mancow Muller's show.Muller, once a trusted friend and confidant of MacDonald and also a member of Harvest Bible Chapel, has used his platform recently to call the pastor out on his less-than-exemplary handling of his critics. 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