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read more, Scripture: i listen to Dr. Tony Evans and i love to hear him preach, he is a good pastor and knows the word of God, so i do not understand why all this negativity about his daughter, i agree with the bible about women being pastors, and she is not a pastor according to how much i know about her( i only know about her from war room). I KNOW this is a looooong series of questions about Priscilla Shirer that was stimulated by your post. For example, the Bible clearly says that women are not to preach to or teach men in the church (2 Timothy 2:12). 13 Bible Verses about God's Ways Beyond Human Understanding Most Relevant Verses Isaiah 55:8-9 "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the Lord. Job 36:26 Verse Concepts Let's find out as we begin this study in discernment, Choose What Is Right. read more, Scripture: I guess I have to do some research on those folks. http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2012/10/introducing-priscilla-shirer-and-jesus.html. You do not want to get rid of fear entirely. We only get to have the opinions of Christ as stated in the Bible. 15 Neither do we boast beyond our limits in the labors of others. I knew she was his daughter, but Im completely unfamiliar with him or his doctrine. Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer - The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-"pastored" by a woman) Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018 Click here I would suggest beginning with the article entitled Jill in the Pulpit (youll have to scroll down a bit to get to it). Also your references in Matthew do not apply, and sadly this out of context mess gets regurgitated as much, if not more so, as Matthew 7, and the whole Do not ever judge crowd. Are they preaching from a church pulpit on a Sunday morning as a pastor would? And when it was evening, his disciples came to him, saying, This is a desert place, and the time is now past; send the multitude away, that they may go into the villages, and buy themselves victuals. If youve poked around the blog a bit, you might have noticed that we just started a new Wednesday Bible study on the book of Colossians. If you could give me some rightly handled, in context, chapter and verse Scripture to back up your opinions and beliefs, we could talk about it. People who are genuinely born again have a hunger and thirst for studying the truth of Gods word and growing in Christ. We have many of these moments through out our physical lives. What we believe about that is irrelevant. The Bible doesnt say anywhere that because only two people out of two million entered the Promised Land that only a handful of people will be able to experience (theres that word again) what weve learned on the pew.. Stay the Path (book) Promo Priscilla endorses Bobbie Houstons book. But believers are to grow to maturity in their relationship with Christ and their knowlege of His word. I read myself into scripture, too! I am always delighted to answer questions from, and help, women who sincerely want help understanding the problems with a false teacher, understanding Scripture, etc., even if those questions are long. Also, if you had read the paragraph at the very top of this article and clicked on please click here and read this article first, your initial question in this comment (about sin) would have been answered. I thought parables were a kind of means to read yourself into scripture? My heart longs for you to grow in the grace and knowledge of Christ by learning the truth of His word. MATTHEW 14:16 Scripture is very clear that people like Priscilla Shirer who teach false doctrine confuse and stir up evil among believers: I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. Bible Verses about 'Beyond'. Heres just one example of Priscilla preaching to men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fIzWbXvfps. Jesus starts with a biblical truth and uses a story (parable) to illustrate or give an example of that biblical truth. If false teachers and their followers would simply repent and believe and obey Scripture, there would be no more division in the Body. 2. in his justice and great righteousness, he does not oppress. Theres plenty of video evidence of it and witnesses who could testify to it. It does NOT say, and be baptist. We are to base everything we think, do, and believe on Scripture. Amen. Ive read her own account explaining this. No where did she usurp authority etc. She did indeed build the doctrine of theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pew on her eisegetical handling of Scripture as I explained in that section. Neil knows much more about New Testament studies than I do, but I'm not sure how far forward we can go with the New Testament, given that most of its writers believed their world was about to pass away. But I dont recall her suggesting that Christians meditate or pursue contemplative prayer. Is highly recomended, presenting four distinctive views about going "beyond the Bible", in ethics and moral issues, each one written by serious scholar. It is as old as the Scriptures themselves. Wolters begins with the shrewd observation that the four authors understand what moving beyond the Bible to theology means in at least four overlapping but distinguishable ways: (1) bringing the authority of Scripture to bear on issues that Scripture itself does not directly address (e.g., in contemporary bioethics); (2) dealing with ethically . "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Ive heard her recommend Christian women to go to a quiet place to pray. The reason I refer people in on line conversations to my articles is so I dont have to regurgitate what Ive already written. Id encourage you not to take my word for it, but to examine the evidence against Scripture (in context, of course) for yourself. In the first approximately 90 seconds of the video you can clearly see and hear men in the audience, and in her introductory remarks, Prisicilla indicates that she is preaching the Sunday service at this church. I couldnt find these terms in my Bible! Scripture doesnt specify that only preaching from a pulpit on Sunday morning as a pastor would or leading a church qualifies as preaching to or teaching men, but, yes, they have both done the former and neither has indicated repentance over it or any plans to stop doing so. They point you to your own experiences and opinions, not to Scripture, as your authority for what you think, believe, and do. And yet you thank him as opposed to rebuking him. (Yikes!). Next, youre not going to see an article like this from TGC or Challies. 5:7 ). Our desire is not only for all to understand His written Word but for all to experience His Power! I think I dont think I feel If youre a Christian, what you think, feel, believe, say, and do is supposed to be governed by Scripture. Is there some connection between this article on Priscilla Shirer and Israel that Im missing? on Fighting for the Faith, True Woman Conference Speaker Priscilla Shirer Hears Gods Still, Small Voice at Apprising Ministries, Priscilla Shirer and Contemplative/Centering Prayer at Apprising Ministries, He Speaks to Me (April 24, 2008) promo video by Priscilla Shirer, War Rooms Priscilla Shirers Contemplative History, and Why ItMattersat Berean Research, Review of Priscilla Shirers Sermon: The Multitude by Chris Rosebrough, Priscilla Shirer- Mystic by David Sheldon, Priscilla Shirer: Out Of The Closet At The Alpha Leadership Conference 2017at Emergent Watch, Priscilla Shirerat Fighting for the Faith, Fervent Warning on Priscilla Shirerat Christian Answers for the New Age, Why I do not recommend Kendrick Brothers new movie, War Room, part 2 at The End Time, War Room: A Review by Justin Peters at Worldview Weekend, Stand Firm: A Review of War Room at Satisfaction Through Christ, Reblogged this on Seth Dunn and commented: Kay Arthur, Beth Moore, and Priscilla Shirer Believe In Teaching Men Too, Popular False Teachers and Unbiblical Trends, Priscilla Shirer: Living Your Life For Christ (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN, Priscilla Shirer Talks Women and the Church, Moving From the Pew to the Pavement and Why, War Rooms Priscilla Shirers Contemplative History, and Why ItMatters, Review of Priscilla Shirers Sermon: The Multitude, Priscilla Shirer: Out Of The Closet At The Alpha Leadership Conference 2017, Why I do not recommend Kendrick Brothers new movie, War Room, part 2, Going Beyond Scripture: Why Its Time to Say Good-Bye to Priscilla Shirer and Going Beyond Ministries, https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/christ-centered-silence-for-noisy-advent-season, http://the-end-time.blogspot.com/2012/10/introducing-priscilla-shirer-and-jesus.html, Priscilla Shirer: vetting a winsome but wayward teacher | Pilgrims Progress revisited - Christiana on the narrow way, Sharing the Housewife Theologians Review of Fervent | Steak and a Bible, https://michellelesleybooks.com/2015/12/18/rock-your-role-faqs/, https://www.osv.com/Magazines/TheCatholicAnswer/ByIssue/Article/TabId/809/ArtMID/13667/ArticleID/16800/Why-Did-Jesus-Use-Parables.aspx, https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-parables.html, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fIzWbXvfps, http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=18085, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_THJXignk, http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=10843, Dr. Oz, Priscilla Shirer, Carl Lentz partner for Faithful Fridays show | Aspreeman's Archives, Priscilla Shirer: Out Of The Closet At The Alpha Leadership Conference 2017 Emergent Watch, Is She a False Teacher? Its this link: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=18085. Olga Souders As I mentioned in my comment, I was here with my wife, completely of my own volition, in no way did Michelle do anything unbiblical. (Edited to add- After I posted this comment, I noticed your comment was addressed to Seth Dunn, not to me. but i will look to the word of God , and i will talk to my pastor. The False Teaching of Priscilla Shirer on the Here I Stand Theology Podcast, Is Priscilla Shirer a Sound Exegete? This is not a Church. In fact, the Bible says the opposite. #4b believers from different denominations Priscilla references who rattled her theological box may have been part of Priscillas initial exposure to false Word of Faith teaching and false teachers such as the aforementioned Meyer, Caine and Osteens. Since you havent had a chance to question Priscilla about what she was talking about here (or maybe it was revealed in this Bible study? If a pastor (or husband- Beth has also said she is acting under her husbands mantle of authority) tries to give her that authority, he is putting himself in the place of God who has prohibited it and he is sinning, too. You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings. read more, Scripture: Im not sure if youre referring to Beths inclusion of Catholicism, or both Beths and Priscillas joining with people who subscribe to Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) false doctrine. If he had, he would have been advocating one of four principles, which are inconsistent with the rest . The law in this case, being Scripture. How can you trust that anything else she teaches you about the Bible is accurate and true? Tools. Do you have any other examples? Be a Christian Who Cares You must be afraid of some things, or else you will be in trouble. Romans 16:17-18 tells us were to mark false teachers and avoid them. Going by her recent appearances, she no longer seems to have any reservations about violating the Scriptures that prohibit her from teaching and preaching to men. Paul refuted public false teaching publicly many times. Until that time, however, it saddens me to have to recommend that Christian women not follow Priscilla Shirer or any materials or activities from Going Beyond Ministries for the following reasons: Priscilla unrepentantly preaches to and instructs men in the Scriptures in violation of 1 Timothy 2:12-14(as well as other passages of Scripture that do not allow this). Today I would like to preach on the thought astonished beyond measure. And if I perish, I perish. Go, gather together all the Jews who are in Susa, and fast for me. He wants you to learn good theology and sound doctrine. This article really turned me off on her. Untold millions of Christians over the last two thousand years have studied Gods word, grown close to Him, matured in their faith, and walked faithfully with Him throughout their lives. NOW, I have to preface this with this was MANY years ago. Let's not go beyond what the Lord says through His Word. But read her He Speaks to Me Bible study for yourself if you want to assess. I didnt know I was reading and studying scripture wrong. Yes, all of this is important, NO it is not vital. (I remember when I was a missionary to New Guinea back in the 80s, the missionaries were teaching us how to reach the unsaved New Guinea nationals by telling simple Bible stories, and stories of how our lives were changed by Jesus. Go beyond our fears. such as man can bear. read more, Scripture: Here are my 2.1. My bible teaches those roles but thank you. Do you have other references to their false teaching? They start, not with a biblical truth but with a story or life experience, and then they build doctrine and beliefs out of that experience. Plus, she has a Bible and supposedly knows it well enough to teach it. Ive subscribed to both for several years, so I can tell you thats not the kind of writing they do (though Challies did feature and link to Aimee Byrds review of Fervent in his 12/21/15 A La Carte segment). She goes beyond what is written in teaching men, in partnering with false teachers, in teaching unbiblical prayer practices, and in using improper hermeneutics. The true bride will always go beyond the minimal requirements. I am currently getting familiar with blogs for Christian ladies and your thorough, scholarly, biblical recommendations are absolutely invaluable. As for the topic of this post neither of us have heard of her, but thanks for the heads up and good article as always. I dont want my readers to believe something just on my (or anyone elses) say so. https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/christ-centered-silence-for-noisy-advent-season. BEYOND ENCOURAGEMENT Here is a partial list of things that the Bible does not answer definitively: 1. In the videos Ive viewed, there are only women involved (with the exception of the camera guys and the lighting guys.) (HaHaHa~ I KNOW Im going to be asked about this one by the ladies in our study. Do you have another links to her preaching or instructing men in the Scriptures? or even some reformed guys or women who speak against Schirer. Its not about doing good works to get myself into heaven, like going to church every If you need more information, Id suggest BereanResearch.org, FightingForTheFaith.com, CARM.org, GTY.org, and Apprising.org. Hi Tiffany- Thanks for asking! 7,400,364 journeys have been made to this site. Are you into apologetics or something? - People coming out of sinful lives dont usually smell good. Thank you again. Lastly, although you are not directly in front of Travis Arnett, Saikowoods, Taylor Dunn & Seth Dunn, all of which are men who have posted here They are Reading & commenting on your comments and blog, thus you are teaching men. Esther 4:16 fasting. Dear Michelle, Could you point to me where Priscilla suggests that we empty our mind? Jonah 2:10. Yes, its a big deal and, yes, I will continue to teach and write about it. What an encouragement! Heres the thing. What we believe about God must come from Scripture alone. How is this different?. You should learn from us not to go beyond what is written in Scripture. Reblogged this on Eternally Secured and commented: 2 Kings 5:1-15 If you carefully examine Beths and Priscillas events over the last several years, youll see that they headline plenty of events that are wide open to both men and women. Or will we apply extra effort and go beyond our duty? Real hope is only found in the true Christ of Scripture, and thats not what Beth and Priscilla teach. Kay Arthur, Beth Moore, and Priscilla Shirer Believe In Teaching Men Tooat Surphs Side. THIS PRACTICE WAS NOT UNCOMMON IN THE EARLY CHURCH. It is teachers like Priscilla who want us to base our beliefs on our feelings and experiences, and that is not biblical. 7 Steps to Figuring it Out on Your Own, It Should Happen Rarely, But It Shouldnt Be Ignored | The Outspoken TULIP, Is Priscilla Shirer false teacher? I am a born again Christian. Yes, Kenneth Hagin was one of the worst false teachers out there. But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil. I want people to study their Bibles and use Scripture as the measuring stick for the things that are happening and being taught in the church today. All comments are handled manually, and I do not publish comments which promote false doctrine. Go beyond what's familiar. Thats good, but that doesnt change the fact that neither Beth nor Priscilla turn down speaking events that are open to both men and women. Did anything frighten you this morning? Pastors dont read LifeWay studies or pay attention to the false teaching crowd, for the most part. Still, knowing his perspective and the fact that hes her father doesnt change the fact that what Priscilla Shirer is doing is wrong. Remember what Hebrews 5:12-14 says: For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. The youtube video you offer here in your post is not available and Id kind of like to see what you were talking about. The result is that those doctrines and beliefs often conflict with Scripture because theyre not based on Scripture but a fallible personal experience. However, under Three Suggestions he mentions biblical reflection, meditate on His word, and Christ-centered silence. Theres too much wiggle room in this article to pin him down on exactly what he means by silence. Id like to see him go back and tighten it up one way or the other to give clarity to his readers. Armor of God Workbook with Video Access TO IDENTIFY THREE DANGERS BELIEVERS ARE TO AVOID. The silence he describes in the paragraph titled Line 1 could easily be construed to mean mystical/contemplative (i.e. God bless you, and keep up the good work sister! Far too often we just "go through the motions" in life but Jesus wants much more than this for our lives. 3. This is not a new idea. Mark 10:46-53, Denomination: Parables were a common form of teaching in Judaism ( to lead us to self-examination) (https://www.osv.com/Magazines/TheCatholicAnswer/ByIssue/Article/TabId/809/ArtMID/13667/ArticleID/16800/Why-Did-Jesus-Use-Parables.aspx) (oops~ this is a Catholic reference~ how bout this one: Go beyond what's fair. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. I would check with BereanResearch.org, FightingForTheFaith.com, and LighthouseTrails.com. Im so happy for you that you have a discerning pastor. Going Beyond Obedience. Why do you think I do not? Silly me! You are teaching me and I didnt even realize it! Finally, you summed up your blog post on why Christian women shouldnt follow, support or receive teaching from Priscilla Shirer because she teaches men (though I cant find evidence of this but Im still lookin! Amber, you seem like a very dear sister, and I love you. I wont be publishing comments or answering emails that are answered by this article. You know, your making this comment right now is very interesting timing. I KNOW that you probably dont have the proclivity to clarify your position (youve already stated that you wouldnt/ couldnt reply to questions that are long. The last verse was a warning; this is an encouragement. 3. I can tell that just from your comment. Remember, the Bible says our hearts are deceitful (Jeremiah 17:9), so we cant trust our feelings unless they line up with, and are based on, the truth of Gods word. All of these people are proponents of the false and anti-biblical Word of Faith (prosperity gospel) doctrine, and the Jakeses are also modalists. After a bit of research on Ms. Shirer, Im determined that shes one to beware of. Verse 13. I think the following articles will be helpful in answering your question: You might also want to take a look at the other articles in my Rock Your Role series. One Sunday, the preacher went on for a little longer than normal. It sounds like you want to be discerning and weigh things carefully. I've been reading a book by Francine Rivers lately about an old woman called Leota who loves the Lord and has an amazing impact upon the lives of other people in her life, yet is rejected and hated by her own daughter, Eleanor. One of them went up to him and told him. Before we move on to Priscilla, I just want to reiterate that preaching to men is not the only way Beth is unrepentantly breaking Scripture (although that is certainly enough to disqualify her as a teacher). We're called to not live by our feelings but by faith ( 2 Cor. and also I feel you need to reach out to her for yourself. My previous comment with the links was in answer to questions that you asked. Often God reveals more through discussions and scripture references. 2 JOHN If it were, Paul, Jude, Peter, and even Jesus would be guilty of that sin. ROger Oakland of understanding the times and a few good men, are putting together a web site. Hey brother Saiko Woods! If youre in need of suggestions of doctrinally sound blogs for women, go to the top of this page and click on Recommended Bible Teachers. Ive got two lists of 10 up there, and another one coming in the near future. 5. You are spot on. It states our purpose to do only those things which are authorized by the Scripture. I cant but take this article with only a grain of salt. We treat God's written word with reverence, accepting it as complete and adequate, and refuse to alter it in any way (II Timothy 3:16,17). Matthew 6:9-13. I have attempted plenty of times to contact people like Priscilla Shirer. If you're new or would like to comment, please see the "Welcome- Start Here" tab at the top of this page. Do you send women to your articles as a response? Let us look at it from a mindset point of view. And besides all these big names, arent just claiming to over see a church, they are writing New York best sellers, etc. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Parables arent the same thing as eisegesis (or Jesus would have been handling Scripture improperly, Himself), and its easy to see this by reading through (in context) several of Jesus parables. INTRODUCTION Before you answer No too quickly, consider that we cannot live without fear. They had started out on the right foot with the biblical gospel, but false teachings were beginning to take hold. Finally, I agree we should seek out credible sources when reading news reports and things like that where were called upon to simply believe what were being told, but thats not the case here. Deuteronomy 6:4 ESV / 4 helpful votes Not Helpful "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. You may have loved her in War Room and want to buy her books. You do not have to know whether or not Im a credible source to examine the evidence in light of Scripture and come to the conclusion that she is sinning. Then you won't arrogantly place one of us in opposition to the other. You should bring these points about Shirer up to your pastor if her studies are being pushed in your church. Do you think the stretching feels good? Or and be .. I attended a conference with Beth Moore, whom I know you have accused also of teaching and preaching to men. I am gonna pray for you. Like I said in todays article God has more for you and expects more from you than from you than settling for fluff and false doctrine. I attended a conference with Beth Moore, whom I know you have accused also of teaching and preaching to men, and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. Well, man, if theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pewthen I want one of those to be me., The story of Joshua and Caleb being the only ones to enter the Promised Land has absolutely no connection whatsoever with how many Christians today will be able to achieve intimacy with God. It doesnt. Priscilla Shirer is a wife and mom of three boys hailing from the Dallas area. There are two ways in which living in Christ helps us live beyond our fears: knowing that He is completely trustworthy, and doing as He calls us to do. read more, Scripture: It often times fails. Verse Concepts. The problem at the Colossian church (the reason Paul wrote this epistle to them) was that false doctrine was starting to creep in. She is a false teacher, not because I say so, but because when you compare her teachings and behavior to Scripture, you will find them consistently in conflict with Scripture. As Joshua was facing the end of his life, he challenged the people to chose, the choice they would make would define them as a people. Youre more than welcome to join the study if youd like. Heres why. And His promises will never let you down or disappoint you. 2. What is your belief regarding Israel and the plan God has for the future of Israel? Yet, I noticed in your comments that you did not once appeal to Scripture or support your position with Scripture. No mention of sitting in silence or listening here nor in any of the other passages in which the Bible teaches about prayer. Otherwise, it appears this is a form of gossip.. Priscilla often uses poor hermeneutics when handling Gods word. Their focus is on Christian living type articles, not discernment (which is certainly fine, everybody has his own genre). Choose What Is Right: A Study in Discernment ~ Lesson 1- Introduction, Going Beyond Scripture: Why It's Time to Say Good-Bye to Priscilla Shirer and Going Beyond Ministries, The Mailbag: Celebrity Christian Hot Takes (Driscoll, Graham, Groeschel, Lewis, Lucado, Piper, Vallotton), Leaving Lysa: Why You Shouldn't Be Following Lysa TerKeurst or Proverbs 31 Ministries, Doctrinally Sound Christian Men to Follow - 1, Bible Gateway- Fantastic concordance and other Bible tools, CARM- Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, Christian Answers for the New Age (Marcia Montenegro). I think youll also find my article Is She a False Teacher? Could you please show me the Bible verse that says were supposed to be happy for people who achieve financial and popularity success by twisting Gods word, teaching false doctrine, and walking in disobedience to Him? Grace&Peace in Christ brother travis & sister tori, Thanks so much, Travis. Why would the Bible give us both descriptive and prescriptive instruction to warn against false teaching if doing so is a sin (gossip)? I havent done One in a Million yet) this is supposition on your part. Though the Bible allowed provisions for indentured servitude, which was a humane alternative to such harsh punishments for failure to pay one's debts, such as d Then Judah said to Onan, "Go in to your brother's wife, and perform your duty as a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother." Romans 15:1 Verse Concepts Now we who are strong ought to bear the weaknesses of those without strength and not just please ourselves. The New Testament knows nothing of a Christian whos satisfied just to escape hell. It is about sin in the local congregation where you actually know the person personally and have access to him/her. 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