The present implication is that the Chinese are important people with great cultural depth.   Permalink And in any case the 'specialist books' I referred to are based on corpus linguistics - in other words how people actually use the language. So, there are some scenarios where I have got just will not do. But without the use of "just" or other words to reinforce that we mean "get", we would normally simply take it to mean possession, as in "I've got a cold". @WWYou make a telling point about phrases from local dialect.There is a phrase commonly used in south west and central Scotland which I am sure would be very confusing to anyone from outside that area.To those unfamiliar with it, the phrase "a roll on bacon" would certainly be confusing and would probably conjure up a somewhat strange image.But the locals know exactly what is meant.The phrase itself probably came about as a corruption of "a roll and bacon". Yes, that's how it probably started, but it hasn't had that meaning for centuries. This of course doesn't negate the fact that we occasionally also use "have got" as the present perfect of "get" - "I've just got myself a new car", and we would probably interpret "I've just got a virus from somewhere" as "I've just contracted a virus" (although I don't follow the logic of why somebody should think that use of the present perfect should mean something is no longer true, as in your example; we never use it like that for anything else). Until then, how you stretch "got" to mean present tense possession is beyond me. I made a comment that went something like, "I've got all the same color," meaning the cards. Oh, I wanted to add that I made my way to this site googling(is that a word now?) And what about 'have got to' and 'have to' - where's the subtle difference there, I wonder? Wow! "I have" would be used primarily in the instance where you have had something for quite sometime. "Have Milk?" GOT (auxiliary verb) (informal) must; have got (followed by an infinitive). And there is no temporal difference either. 8 votes This afternoon alone he's got three client meetings. Having said that, I want to urge everyone who generalizes about groups to stop doing this. Pah! You complained that "got" has been stretched to mean present tense possession. @PorscheHow about "I have to go" vs "I have got to go"?or "I have to have an operation" vs "I have got to have an operation"? ", "Luckily he's got a good job to pay for all the upkeep. In the car, Mom says, "Do yu hav yur book?" I’ve got a bad cold. :), 0 vote Perhaps in America the situation is different. The 'I've got' construction is nothing to do with present perfect, of 'get' or anything else - so the 'j'ái' thing is neither here nor there. on someone's.   Report Abuse. they've, we've, you've, you've (he's, she's, etc.) That's why it's listed in dictionaries under "have", not "get". "Is there not a redundancy in the use of 'got' with 'have'?".   Permalink There is no standard "American" English anymore than there is a standard "British" English.   Report Abuse. It may be wrong, but I definitely feel that stronger than, "I have(or need) to go to bed." Using this form with "since", 'how long" and "for" to indicate a period up to the present is, it is true, very English. I believe he was thinking of 'to get' as in 'to obtain' or 'to acquire'. It's simply an idiomatic version of 'I have' which can only be used in the present; for other times we need to use 'have'. If it gets my feeling across, I will say it until I die. "I've got", on the other hand, does. 2.French does have a tense constructed in the same way as present perfect - passé composé, which has two functions. I teach students to put in contractions when they are writing informal emails, for example, as uncontracted forms can sound rather stiff. To red(d) ... not on your list) is to clean up or get ready. @Curious indeed - that should read - not many people contract "I have to" to "I've to" ... "I've got to". For example, you say 'I 've got a new car', but not ' I've got a bath every morning '. The simple answer is that "I have" is more commonly used in written English and "I've got" is more commonly used in spoken English. In short, "have got" is perfectly good English. It just doesn't work. It's one of the many things I've noticed, alongside a Brit's way of asking a question, "Have you got a meeting this afternoon?" The "have" and "got" in "have got" are also not redundant, because the "have" is an auxiliary verb, while the "got" is a participle. See more. How to use I've in a sentence. I've heard so much about … @dogreed - again in BrE 'I have a rash' means exactly the same as 'I have got a rash' - 'have got' is simply an alternative present tense of 'have' (Shaw - Practical English Usage), 48 votes I’ve got an extra apple if you want one. So what! Anonymous. When you say "I have" something, it means that you are in possession of it, nothing more and nothing less. As for whether it's redundant or not, is of supreme indifference to me (as you could see just then), it's the way most of us speak. Have (got) to go definition is - to be required to leave. I explained to his teacher that have got is used colloquially to mean possession, but its usual meaning is to acquire. Synonyms and related words. I grew up in Boston so my English is a mish-mash of AmE and BrE complete with misspellt words (to an American) and odd constructions ("so aren't you"). 'I got a car' (get) is a red herring; it has nothing to do with 'I've got a car' (have got), full stop. Similarly being perfect in grammar is useless without a good vocabulary and a relative fluency in speaking. (notice either way,it is past tense) If you know of a legitimate reference that goes further, let me know. But its primary function is much the same as present perfect - "Le passé composé fonctionne normalement comme forme d'accompli dans le présent" (Grammaire du francais - Denis, Sancier-Chateau, Livre de Poche) - The passé composé functions normally as a form of completion in the present: "Jusqu'á présent Paul ná écouté que de la musique classique""Up until now Paul has only listened to classical music.". Problem is it isn’t in my Webster’s Collegiate or the online Merriam–Webster.com but both references define got as past and past participle of get. psps GOT it? Well yes, I am relatively sure of myself because I've been teaching English for ten years, and I also checked out my facts fairly carefully before commenting, see references above. Usually the context of a situation makes it clear whether present accessibility is implied. E.g., "I have eaten breakfast already." Conversely, everything you have got, you still have, unless of course, you've disposed of it somehow (in which case, you'd probably say "had got"). ©2021 CYCLE Interactive, LLC.All Rights Reserved. I have been (eg somewhere for a length of time) = I am. Why can't people simply enjoy using the language we all speak, and the choices we have in formulating it, without constantly looking for so-called errors. Have got definition: to possess | Meaning, pronunciation, translations and examples save someone's skin. for people do discuss the vagaries of English usage. Trying to understand what a phrase means has nothing to do with a 'preposterous need to cling to the rules in all instances rather than using your ears and your mind and treating rules as the rough guidelines they are.'. The second is more efficient (we don't have to open wide for the 'a' sound in have, everything goes smoothly forward). If you want to say this with proper grammar, the equivalent would be, 'I have got to' or 'I've got to'. Jim: I'm not sure about your logic.What about "I have a car" (present) and "I bought a car" (past)? "I have a blue car," "I have brown hair," "I have black shoes," or "I have a nice, furry jacket." I've just noticed (or even observed that) it's -11 C outside! There's nothing wrong, grammatically or semantically, with such an assertion. There is the past-present tense difference. Haha.There is the past-present tense difference, but it's really just where you're from, they can and usually do mean the same thing. normal) doesn't mean incorrect. Languages are fluent and change. "I ate breakfast at 9AM" has no implications for the present - it is simply a record of when things happened. Both are acceptable forms and there is no grammatical explanation for a preference in either usage. @jayles - OK, we can agree on something, at least. English And I've got to do something right now to get the result or nothing matters. Should you know? In the first sentence "got" is indeed the past of "get", but in the second, "have got" is idiomatic for "have". Re teaching English as a "second" language:Today the need often for business or academic English - emails and essays - and some of the course books are beginning to show this. If 'I've got' was present perfect we would be able to use past simple and past perfect of 'get' with same meaning (which we patently can't): She's got blonde hair = She has blonde hair I would never teach "I have got" aside from being a colloquialism that the learner needs to be aware of. In British English, dirt has the connotation of being dirty ('you', assez proche de l'idée de 'il y a à boire et à manger', Phrase used when someone has brought all the evidences to support his point of view; "I'm done with explanations", I can't understand it, I can't believe it, I can't accept it. It should be "I ate breakfast at 9AM."'. ~~~ Namelijk de eerste film die Charles ooit maakte. Note to administrator -this is not entering my name, but part of my email address instead. 86 votes It's not rocket science. ... Yea, I'v got it." It's standard and is a completely different usage than what's being discussed here. - be quiet! Why is it that most foreign learners grasp this quite easily, but some native speakers just can't see the wood for the trees, I wonder? As cnelsonrepublic says, "have" is an auxiliary verb. Compare these:-"he once got arrested" "he was once arrested""I've got to go" "I must go""I have got a car" (or even "I've got a car") "I have a car"(or even "I've a car")"I've got a good mind to..." "I've a good mind to..""You've got no right" "You have (you've) no right". Know the rules so you can manipulate them. He's got a wonderful family and they've got a lovely old house in the country, which his family have had for centuries. Many languages of Europe 'ave a form using "have+participle"; however, the exact usage is different. advertising campaign example shows that got is often used in the context of acquiring. One cannot hope to cover everything. It's not much of a stretch to use the present perfect to refer to actions in the present. And informal is often also friendlier sounding. If you think "I must travel to work every day by tram and when I arrive I must sign the attendance register." And there's no reason why "got" as the past simple of "get" has to be about the recent past anyway. So here's a couple (or four) -, http://www.oxfordadvancedlearnersdictionary.com/dictionary/havehttp://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/have_2http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/have_2http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/have, And from ESL and grammar websiteshttp://esl.about.com/cs/beginner/a/beg_havegot.htmhttp://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/have-got-grammar.aspxhttp://www.eslbase.com/grammar/have-gothttp://www.better-english.com/havegot.htm (quiz with examples). The same with passive "got": this is an informal construction. "it's -11 C outside!" Teaching English as a second (or third) language is a somewhat special case, which is dominated by the required end-use: English for business purposes focuses on business phrases, situations and vocabulary, and pays scant attention to slang, general idioms, and informal items which are not important. @Skeeter Lewis - What is a plain man to think?   Report Abuse. http://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=I%27ve+to+say%2CI%27ve+got+to+say&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=16&smoothing=3&share=. 27 votes How to use have (got) to go in a sentence. So yes, there is definitely a Standard English, and as there are considerable general variations between the American sort and the British sort, it is entirely appropriate to talk of British Standard English and American Standard English. Does it make any difference if a try to use it this way? @Tom - I bet that's not a British course book publisher. That said, the real message contained in an utterance may be quite at odds with the actual word forms: consider for instance how many ways one can say "Really" in various contexts. Yesterday I musted to entertain a new client and tomorrow I'll must go on a business trip"? "She's got blue eyes and a fiery temper" is no shorter temporally than "She has blue eyes and a fiery temper". out of one's. I'm not quite sure why it is that foreign learners get the hang of "have got" quite early on, but some native speakers don't seem to be able to get their heads around it at all (I also teach English) . I find it interesting that I did pick it up from someone else though, but I enjoy it. "She's got naturally wavy hair and she's got a friendly disposition." You can say "I've got ten toes" even though you've always had them. "Do you have a condom?" But if you have place names with loch in the US, why is it that Americans (and the English for that matter) seem to be unable to pronounce it? on one's. Linguists discuss Standard English at University College London: http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/dick/standard.htm, Standard British English, grammar.about.com;http://grammar.about.com/od/rs/g/standbriteterm.htm, The Columbia Guide to Standard American English:http://www.amazon.com/Columbia-Guide-Standard-American-English/dp/0231069898, BBC / British Council - American vs Standard British English:http://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/blogs/marcc22/american-versus-standard-british-english, British-domiciled American Linguist's blog comparing the two standards:http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.com/. Gratuit. That's why you'll find it listed in learner's dictionaries under "have" rather than under "get". Which reminds me of these lines from an old music-hall song 'Wee Deoch an Doris made popular by Harry Lauder - 'If you can say, "It's a braw bricht moonlicht nicht",Then yer a'richt, ye ken.'. then its unclear whether yu asking "Do yu hav it?" About the meaning difference between "have" and "have got", Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage notes that for many Americans, "have got" denotes mere possession, but "have" denotes obtaining. The word "got" has a bad rep. In some contexts, there is very little difference between "have to" and "must", and your example is a good one. Trust what occurs in specific instances, not what general rules say. In British English there is absolutely no difference in meaning between "have" and "have got" (which is why it dictionaries list it under "have"). Have got is usually used in the present tense. You're absolutely right that 'got' conveys no extra meaning, which has certainly confused some people, but it does suggest a difference in register. My point is, I don't care if it's wrong or not. Translations in context of "I've got" in English-Dutch from Reverso Context: i've got to, i've got something, i've got one, i've got two, i've got nothing Do you have the flu? @jayles - re: emails - most internal emails are written in relatively informal language, so contractions and constructions like "have got (to)" are entirely appropriate. - correct version - When I first knew her she had brown hair, * She had originally got black hair, apparently - again, where had she obtained it from? 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