Temple claims that bas-reliefs of the Sumerian demigod Oannes, which depict a "fish man," prove Nommo, whom the author identifies as the ancestor of the Dogon Nommo myths, was an amphibious extraterrestrial. Though Temples work was challenged, at its core lay the original anthropological study of the Dogon by Griaule and Dieterlen, who describe the secret knowledge of Sirius B and Sirius C in their own book The Pale Fox. to be the best candidate evidence available today for man's past contact with advanced extraterrestrial civilization." What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. Ask about whatever you want with our Free Rune Readings! astronomical information. Such assimilation occurs most frequently when the subject is one of particular interest to a people -- as Sirius is to the Dogons. 1978. Indeed, in view of the Dogon fixation with Sirius it would surely be more surprising if they had not grafted on to their existing legend some new astronomical information gained from Europeans. Here, then, is another datum to be investigated when it is possible." Temples solution referred to legends of a mythical creature, the god Oannes, who might have been an extraterrestrial, described as descending to Earth from the stars to bring civilising wisdom to the Dogon forefathers. In a response published in Fate magazine, he denied intending that: "I refer, entirely in passing, to the Greek word for siren and its similarity to the word for Sirius, drawing absolutely (Photo by John and Keturah. Beings of this type would be a bit like mermaids and mermen. Perhaps the 'sirens' are, figuratively, a chorus of mermaids recalled from earlier times.They are called in Greek Seiren.It is As an example, Sagan believes that because the Dogon seem to have no knowledge of another planet beyond Saturn which has rings, their knowledge is therefore more likely to have come from European, and not extraterrestrial, sources.[11]. In a recent book, The Once and Future Star (Hawthorn Books, 1977), George Michanowsky identifies "Oannes" as a Hellenized version of the Sumerian name Ea; he informed the Dogon of Sirius B or "he misinterpreted their references Temple, however, has stated in the reprint of The Sirius Mystery (1999) that he in no way supports what he refers to as "sinister cults" that have been inspired by his book. (Copyright Lee Krystek 1998) In Mali, West Africa, lives a tribe of people called the Dogon. Even in the most optimistic reading of this tale, the Dogon know no more than we knew about the Solar System and nearby stars in the 1930s, which is about the time that Griaule and Deiterlen first interacted with them. He was told that fishlike creatures called the Nommo had come to Earth from Sirius to civilizes its people. sigui, held by the Dogon every sixty years. They conclude that Temple was very keen to please his mentor, who believed in extraterrestrial beings from Sirius. Europeans too talked about the discovery of a third star in the Sirius system; later investigations, however, ruled out that possibility. myths by confabulation." % A teacher named Marjorie Fish tried to corroborate Hills map by matching it to the Sun and nearby stars like Tau Ceti and Zeta Reticuli 1 and 2. Griaule," Current Anthropology 32, 1992, pp. "Legends of the Dogon: belief in a long-solved The Dogon Revisited But it is an unfortunate tendency for certain reviewers to wish to try and appear clever at the expense of accuracy, honesty, objectivity, fairness, or even decent manners, by dropping any standards at all in their headlong assaults on authors using only the tools of distortion, dishonesty, and insults. (Temple claims missionaries didn't show up until 1949.) rotation is astronomically possible but whether it is correct or not we cannot yet know. In September 1980, Dr. Philip C. Steffey did an in-depth analysis of Dogon astronomical traditions in "Some Serious Astronomy in the 'Sirius Mystery,' " which criticized Temple's book as "inadequate and full of factual errors and misrepresentation of critical material. A recent newsletter from my local astronomy association still found the Dogon and their mysterious knowledge of Sirius B worth mentioning. Mali was a former French colony (part of the Sudan), so some Dogon may have gone to French schools in the 1920s.7 Or Jesuit missionaries or merchants may have imparted the information to them.8, There may be an even simpler explanation. In that case the Dogon (and everyone else) would have had little trouble seeing both stars then. What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. So much for the Nommos. [6] The claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. "wished to affirm the complexity of African religions and questioned He made no secret of the fact that his intention was to redeem To quote James and Thorpe: As for Sirius B, only Griaules informants had ever heard of it. Was Griaule told by his informants what he wanted to believe; did he misinterpret the Dogon responses to his questions? Pseudoarchaeology book by Robert K. G. Temple, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Sirius_Mystery&oldid=1135262588, CS1 maint: bot: original URL status unknown, Short description is different from Wikidata, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 23 January 2023, at 16:12. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. The Dogons hold that Jupiter has four moons when in fact it has at least 12, plus a ring, as any true extraterrestrial would have known. Cook some soul food. It was popularized in an episode from the In Search of television series narrated by Leonard Nimoy. They point out that the ancient Egyptians and Sumerians used spherical lenses6 (even though they are a bad choice to use in telescopes try seeing an image through a glass bead). Classical mythology has been a Rorschach test into which people have projected nearly any notion that appealed to them. things. either in daily life or in ritual [to the Dogon]. The greatest source of error, however, seems to be in Temple's specified location of Behdet. The brightest star in the sky is Sirius, now called Sirius A. Swift appears to have taken the idea of two close (although not necessarily small) moons of Mars from Voltaire's novel Micromegos in which an The star Sirius is certainly no stranger to mysteries. complete diagram that the Dogon showed to the French anthropologists Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen, who were the original Based on Carrolls website (skepdic.com), the Dictionary is the definitive short-answer debunking of nearly every thing skeptical. Also if it was seeded by westerners how is the Dogon and surrounding tribes have a fully developed culture and religion structure centered around Sirius going back for hundreds of years? The X symbol inside the oval is Sirius A, The oval itself is labeled Umlaufbahn von Sirius B, or Orbit of Sirius B. Pretty convincing. Finally, he asked me point-blank if I could point out any errors in it and partly out of politeness, partly to get rid of him, and partly because I had been able to read very little of the book so that the answer was true, I said I could not point out any errors. Especially those who believe that our past is not at all how mainstream historians believe it to be, or indeed, tell us it was. their knowledge without contact with an advanced technological Ridpath concludes that any information that resembles the facts about Sirius was probably ascertained by way of cultural contamination. York: Random House, 1995). Mysteries (Ballantine Books, 1999). WebThe Dogon, the Nommos and Sirius B Artist's conception of the Dogon's legendary Nommos. the Dogon. Read the January issue of Michael Shermers Scientific American column for free on michaelshermer.com: Kool-Aid Psychology: How optimism trumped realism in the positive-psychology movement. In other words, the Dogon tribe would not only need the knowledge but also a telescope in order for them to have the information they already seemed to possess. Sirius Readers of Skeptic are not so sanguine. No other anthropologist supports their opinions. I suspect not.". Because Sirius B moves from 8 to 31 AU distance from Sirius A, it is unlikely that planets orbiting Sirius A would have stable orbits. They have a traditional belief in a heliocentric system and In other words, the Dogon tribe would not only need the knowledge but also a telescope in order for them to have the information they already seemed to possess. characteristics. Further, "The fact that the Dogon do not talk of another planet with rings beyond Saturn [i.e., Uranus, whose rings were discovered in 1977--and the rings of Jupiter weren't discovered until after Sagan's book was written, although they would have been clearly visible to any arriving extraterrestrial spacecraft] suggests to me that their informants were European, not extraterrestrial." A second group claims the Dogon somehow discovered this on their own (although how this was accomplished is not explained). The Dogon have a These same myths, Temple claims, identify a planet circling that star as the home of Nommo, an alien creature who founded the Dogon civilization. Another claim: that in Egypt the oasis of Siwa and the ancient Nile City of Thebes are both equidistant from the shrine city of Behdet, in the delta -- and the same exact distance, too. Some might argue that if there were a planet really close to Sirius A, it could be in a stable orbit. One of the pieces of evidence Temple cites is a sand picture made by the e issued monthly by the Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles. African Observers of the Universe: The Sirius Question. In, Ortiz de Montellano, Bernard R. 1996. from black Egyptians who had telescopes. This is the original Dogon drawing. The Sirius Mystery is a book written by Robert K. G. Temple (born Robert Kyle Grenville Temple in 1945) supporting the pseudoscientific[1] ancient astronauts hypothesis that intelligent extraterrestrial beings visited the Earth and made contact with humans in antiquity and prehistoric times. 30-31. In 1965, Arthur Young gave Robert Temple a French article on the secret star lore of the Dogon, an article written by two French anthropologists Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen. (Buffalo, New York: Prometheus Books,1982), pp. The interval between ceremonies may be forty, fifty or sixty years. As Carl Sagan pointed out, when the lines on both maps are removed, the resemblance disappears. The author mentions that he could have made the book much longer but restrained himself "lest I blow this book up into a pufball of miscellaneous odds and ends" -- which prompted one reviewer to remark that Temple had stopped much too late to avoid that fate. Subscribe to eSkeptic: our free email newsletter and get great podcasts, videos, reviews and articles from Skeptic magazine, announcements, and more in your inbox once or twice a week. Beware of mood swings. Griaule and Dieterlen describe a world renovation ceremony, associated Sirius. extraterrestrial visitor tells earthmen about the undiscovered Martian moons. The Bad Archaeology page on the Sirius Mystery has summarize the basic details well: In 1976, Robert K G Temple (born 1945), an American living in the UK, published what was to become a seminal work of Bad Archaeology, The Sirius Mystery. Unfortunately he neglects to mention other bas-reliefs which show "fish-deer" and "fish-lions" and which consequently suggest that the fish motif was symbolic, not descriptive. He certainly did not have permission to use that statement as part of the promotion, I'11 just have to be even more careful hereafter.". "Dogon Restudied: A Field Evaluation of the Work of Marcel Predictions are often reinterpreted to fit any outcome, which makes them scientifically worthless but which can be claimed to verify the pseudo- scientific claims. 2Q9-mV5F W4g?`Su#q6a]sdaGr*_70 ! ;`~RS)Hm@FGI.m3gcW|PF.(`VypT!]WM6'b//^FX[P\9:H37)DH,y|F(&Da]w o9-K?MR+z.R}7.ubqUIXVy~frF@". Legends of the Dogon Belief in a Long-Solved Mystery Resurfaces. Paranormal, ed. Sagan further commented that he was surprised, given the freedom of viewpoint that Fish used, that her map didnt match the Hill map better!4. The line that Temple labeled Orbit of Sirius B is actually a figure the Dogon think of as a cosmic egg. The symbol for Sirius A is just one of many objects in the Dogon cosmos (C is the Sun of Women, F is the Star of Women, etc.). Concludes Sagan, "There are too many loopholes, too many alternate explanations for such a myth to provide reliable evidence of past extraterrestrial contact. Sirius was already the subject of a mystery concerning the traditional lore of the Dogon tribe of Mali, near Timbuktu in western Africa. A Search for Faint Companions to Nearby Stars Using the Wide Field Planetary Camera 2,. Temple considers alternative possibilities other than alien contact, such as a very ancient, advanced, and lost civilization that was behind the sudden appearance of advanced civilization in both Egypt and Sumer. of their culture, came from Sirius -- which is at the crux of Temple's reconstruction? The number "fifty" has great signifance in ancient myths. The mystery of the ancient "red" Sirius also remains baffling. According to the Dogon, the instructor gods descended from Sirius and brought knowledge and wisdom. The expedition, led by Henri Deslandres, stayed in the field for five weeks, and it is reasonable that during this time many contacts with the locals took place, and that relatively modern astronomical knowledge was then transferred. In 1977 two radio astronomers were interested enough in the Sirius mystery to direct their telescopes at the star system in hopes of picking up any artificial radio signals. She claimed an alien starship commander had originally shown it to her. A revised edition was published in 1998 with the new subtitle New scientific WebThe claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. The Skeptics Society is a non-profit, Sagan, Carl 1980. The tribe has a periodic Sirius festival called the "Segui" ceremony; each celebration lasts several years (the last was in 1968-72.) They seem to have %PDF-1.4 "Robert Temple on three different occasions, by mail and phone, attempted to get support from me and I steadfastly refused," Asimov wrote. What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. What is interesting is that the Dogon knew about Sirius and its triple star system way before modern science found out its existence. Whatever their place in the search for extraterrestrial contact, the Dogon myths are certainly odd. To quote Ancient Mysteries: While Temple, following Griaule, assumes that to polo is the invisible star Sirius B, the Dogon themselves, as reported by Griaule, say something quite different. To quote the Dogon: When Digitaria (to polo) is close to Sirius, the latter becomes brighter; when it is at its most distant from Sirius, Digitaria gives off a twinkling effect, suggesting several stars to the observer. This description of a very visible effect causes James and Thorpe to wonder as anyone reading this should do whether to polo is therefore an ordinary star near Sirius, not an invisible companion, as Griaule and Temple suggest. WebAlso there is the fact that they described the Nommo as fish people and you find all kinds of half man/half fish - serpent imagery all over the Mediterranean. If a European had visited the Dogon in the 1920's and 1930's, conversation would likely have turned to astronomical matters, including Sirius, the brightest star in the sky and the center of Dogon mythology. The Dogon have a traditional interest in the sky and astronomical phenomena. They know about the existence of the star Sirius B, a companion star to the brightest star in our sky, Sirius A. One group says the Dogon got their information from aliens from the Sirian system called Nommos. The Dogon. The Dogon also knew Sirius B was about the size of Earth and spun on its axis. None were detected, That was not surprising since, judging from the age and energy of the stars in the Sirius system, astronomers believe it is unlikely that any earthlike planets could exist there long enough for life to emerge and develop. With this, the Dogon mystery comes crashing down. 7 0 obj The second problem is that ancient writers seemed to use color for stars in a way different from the way that we do (they described Pollux, Arcturus, and Capella as red a modern observer would call them yellow-orange, orange, and yellow, respectively). Press J to jump to the feed. Given that the French stayed in their territory for five weeks and had several local guides, it would not be surprising if they shared some astronomical knowledge during that time. Did Oberg? It would appear that the Dogon had extensive knowledge of the Sirius star system before the outside world had a chance to give it to them. But other observers have also written skeptically about the "Sirius Mystery. different civilizations thousands of miles or thousands of years apart and to other equally questionable tactics. A review of the astronomical, cultural, and anthropological sides of this issue might be timely. (2004). To Temple, this proved that "geodetic surveys of immense accuracy were thus practiced in ancient Egypt with a knowledge of the Readers of Skeptic are not so sanguine. Sagan, But didn't Isaac Asimov check over the book for just such factual errors, as the publisher claims? Hmm, The Cardiff Giant, one of the most celebrated hoaxes in American history, on display at the Farmers Museum in Cooperstown, NY. stream How did the Dogon obtain this knowledge? One of the problems the UFO crowd has is providing an answer to the question of where the aliens who visit us come from. He allegedly found the distances "to be nearly equal to one another" -- although no quantitative definition of "nearly equal" was ever offered. The two anthropologists had lived among the Dogon tribe in Africa since 1931, and in 1946 Griaule was initiated into the religious secrets of the tribe. I disagree wit deeee72. The oldest traces of life on Earth go back to about that time. Temple does not argue that contact with an advanced civilization is the only way that the Dogon could have obtained what he understood to be accurate information on Sirius B, but he indicates that he personally finds the theory of alien contact more convincing. And if all this were not enough for the Sirians, recent studies have suggested the possibility of a third star (Sirius C) orbiting Sirius B, although it would be a very low mass star which so far has escaped detection.5 Stable planetary orbits may be very hard to find in the Sirian system. extremely dense and has a fifty-year orbit. In 1966, Temple then aged 21 became Secretary of Youngs Foundation for the Study of Consciousness. The Dogon legend connected with Sirius, wrote Ridpath, "is riddled with ambiguities, contradictions, and downright errors, at least if we try to interpret it literally." According to Robert Temple (The Sirius Mystery), the Dogon had Although we can occasionally claim victory (are there any alchemists left? Conversations With But was anything left out? But other observers disagree. | 3938 State St., Suite # 101, Santa Barbara, CA, 93105-3114 | 1-805-576-9396. He shows a total ignorance or disregard for almost every fact in my book, and there is hardly a single thing in his review which is remotely accurate." It seems that Temples ideas are still popular among practitioners of pseudoarcheology, as well as with the general public. According to Thomas Bullard, van Beek speculates that Griaule "There is some evidence," he points out, "that the Dogon like to frame pictures with an ellipse, and that Temple may be mistaken about the claim that in Dogon mythology the planets and Sirius-B move in elliptical orbits." As the brightest star in the sky it was known and worshiped by ancient civilizations. Melanin Conference, San Francisco, September 16-17, 1987"). claims about the antiquity of this information or of a connection with Noah Brosch explained in his book Sirius Matters that cultural transfer could have taken place between 19th century French astronomers and Dogon tribe members during the observations of the solar eclipse on 16 April 1893. hVt*f+"c2aC-w.EJ|@F[VXLV~oo>l B>xU.9y'nYnZ6aBlc3y&A%M]XME All rights reserved. Some pseudosciences such as homeopathy and free energy never die. Speculation about the Dogon on numerous websites is now mingled with fact, leading to wide misunderstanding among the public about Dogon mythology. "The ancient peoples were not concealing information from us out of spite," he writes. The main problem with the alleged antiquity of the Dogon "Sirius secrets" legend is that they are reminiscent of European Sirius speculations of the late 1920s. If so, I wonder why that passage was ever "worth pointing out" in the book in the first place. Scientists learn that the Dogon do not possess secret knowledge about the star Sirius and its companions. We need more reliable evidence -- especially theories that can be tested. Nevertheless the Sumerian Oannes myths, first described by Sagan and Shklovskiy in Intelligent Life in the Universe in 1966, are as intriguing as ever. Webplanet earth. Nigel Appleby whose book Hall of the Gods was withdrawn from publication has admitted to being tremendously influenced by Temples Sirius Mystery. Why would Europeans feel compelled that they needed to discuss astronomy with such a primitive tribe and why would this transfer of knowledge that only lasted 5 weeks have such an impact on the Dogan people that they would include it in their cultural practices? The Dogon also hold a big sigui ceremony every 60 years, which some interpret as representing the period of time it takes Sirius B to go around Sirius A. So it merely remains for any interested reader to check and see which of us is correct. It's fascinating. A critical analysis has to investigate the accuracy of such claims, so as to judge the validity of the book's conclusions. WebThe Dogon understanding of astronomy was comparatively modern but has several known misconceptions - it entirely lines up with the European understanding as of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, before the discovery of relativity. The biggest challenge to Griaule, however, came from anthropologist Walter Van Beek. mystery resurfaces." found no evidence they knew Sirius was a double star or that Sirius B is Our mysteries may be different but our questions are the same and we are no wiser. mystery resurfaces. Astronomers classify Sirius as a "class A" star, hotter and younger than our sun, Its brightness is due largely to its proximity; it is barely eight light- years away from the earth. McDaid, Liam. The Sirius mystery, though, remains of great interest to many researchers today. The alleged visitors from outer space ", A series of articles has appeared in the Griffith Observer, an astronomy magazin WebThe claims about the Dogons' astronomical knowledge have also been challenged. Also, why would the Dogan people not divulge where they received such recent knowledge of transfer if they had of gotten this knowledge from Europeans. Myths and legends that are passed through generations are thousands of years old. Temple has either misinterpreted Dogon beliefs, or distorted The stars in this group are too young only a few tens of millions of years for planets with life and civilization to have developed. seem to have done little else than give the earthlings some useless What about Sirius? MANY SKEPTICS WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT ONCE SOMETHING IS debunked, that will be the end of it. for some unknown reason from a planet orbiting Through the carbon dating of old ritual masks researchers have established the antiquity of the Segui ceremonies. A substantial bulk of The Sirius Mystery consists of comparative linguistic and mythological scholarship, pointing out resemblances among Dogon, Yoruba, Egyptian and Sumerian beliefs and symbols. based his account on an interview with one person, Ambara, and an Damanhur is 521.0 km from Siwa and 625.9 km from Thebes, a deviation of 20%. Y%gbsPFur[%X7Sz And does the Dogon mythology ever really say that Nommo, the founder good amount of discussion of Sirius in the scientific press in the '20s so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sirius_Mystery. Bullard, Thomas. double star (Ortiz de Montellano).*. If a European But from whom? This is a complicated issue, because several special interest groups each claim the Dogon for their own. Below: The Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy (discovered in 2003) is the nearest known galaxy to the centre of the Milky Way. WebNew evidence deals a devastating blow to what was considered to be the best case for extraterrestrial visitation. Using similar techniques other writers have "discovered" dozens of different, often contradictory "ancient secrets" about Atlantis, primitive Christianity, forgotten wisdom, ancient visitors and numerous other things. On top of that, there is another star, Sirius B, orbiting at an average distance of about 20 AU (1 AU is the distance between the Earth and Sun). Temple's book is indeed extremely long and many other researchers have echoed Asimov's assertion that it is "unreadable." ancient Egypt.*. Griaule, Marcel. The Dogon. No such nebula is seen. The Dogon understanding of astronomy was comparatively modern but has several known misconceptions - it entirely lines up with the European understanding as of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, before the discovery of relativity. WebThe star Sirius is certainly no stranger to mysteries. Precise maps at the NASA space photo interpretation lab in Houston list "Behdet" as an ancient name for modern Damanhur, located today at 31.03 degN, 30.28 degE, i.e., more than a hundred kilometers away from where Temple locates his "Behdet" at 31.50 degN, 31.23 degE. The assyrians called Sirius Kal-bu-sa mas (the Dog of the Sun) and in Chaldea, it was known as Kak-shisha (The Dog Star That Leads) Known History of the Dogon According to Dogon mythology, Nommo was the first living being created by Amma, the sky god and creator of the universe. He soon multiplied to become six pairs of twins. Ideas originally published in 1948, reprint (Oxford University Press 1997). Greek and Arab myths and words are considered to a lesser extent. But even after hundreds of pages of myths and interpretations Temple fails to make a connection between ancient Egypt and the modern Dogons; instead he "assumes" it. Perhaps the source was Temple The brightest star in the sky is Sirius, now called Sirius A. ), many debunked issues keep rising from the dead like vampires springing from their tombs. Many served in the French army in World War I and some of them could have returned years later with colorful embellishments for their native legends. Using spherical trig, I got 612.3 km for the Siwa-Behdet leg and 654.8 km for the Thebes-Behdet. Temple's theory is heavily based on his interpretation of the work of ethnographers Marcel Griaule and Germaine Dieterlen. By comparison, our own Sun was that old 3.4 billion years ago. This step was taken by others, particularly Temple, in the Sixties and Seventies. Temple claims his expert cartographer found these distances "nearly equal." The obviously advanced astronomical knowledge must have come from somewhere, but is it an ancient bequest or a modern graft? African thought. The Dogon are believed to be of Egyptian decent and their astronomical lore goes back thousands of years to 3200 BC. Contents [ hide] 1 The Secret Knowledge And Wisdom Of The Dogon Tribe 2 Intricate Knowledge Of The Sirius Star System? In other words, the Dogon tribe would not only need the knowledge but also a telescope in order for them to have the information they already seemed to possess. 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