During the course of the ongoing investigation numerous potential suspect names and photos have crossed various forums, blogs, social media and news outlets, this blog included. Not sure. I can finally see the supposed bodies. Your email address will not be published. Leaker was extremely controversial, yet for a variety of reasons, I regard him as credible. Reply . King World Productions Inc. 2023 Inside Edition Inc. and CBS interactive Inc., Paramount companies. Just more coincidence surrounding DN I suppose. Sure, murder isnt pretty. What about those who post side by side photos comparing BG to a random guy they found on Facebook? These bastards (I wholeheartedly believe more than one perp is involved!) Any of those. If the truck can be linked to Mr. X, an arrest will be possible. This friend says he saw Mr. X elsewhere in town around the time of the murders. Someone said that Stroup seemed to distance himself from this one making the remark on Facebook This vid is all on Greeno (to that effect). It is considered to be a solid alibi in terms of taking the case to court. The last two comments are closer to the beginning of the thread. A lot of people are under surveillance in this country, you have no idea. I dont know what the people at the bar were saying. Just as there are men and real men, so there are writers and real writers. Your email address will not be published. One girl was pregnant: This has been a rumor from the very first weeks after the crime. Sources It is most likely 5-7 days old. Theyve been with me from the start and the start of this case, and I couldnt have done anything without them. Speaking of which, I wish I was in California! They are not about to implicate one or more of their own, so theyve relied on misdirection and omission of key procedures that would have pretty much guaranteed a conviction, not to mention an arrest. Leaker said, in shocking news, that Mr. Xs phone was pinging at the abandoned Child Protective Services (CPS) building for several hours around the time of the murders. In Indiana, Daniel Nations has a long list of arrestsand a history of skipping court appearances. Recant your alibi and admit you lied and we wont prosecute you. Afraid of getting caught. Police have received over 30,000 tips. Abby and Libby were murdered after going for a hike near an old bridge in February 2017. There is more shocking information that was touched on earlier. Indianapolis, IN 46203. A guy wrote a book accusing him of doing it. And you would think that they would have run a search on the orange truck and found it came back to Mr. X.. You mean if he lost his key in the forest? I thought the guy sounded a lot like Anthony Green. Excellent article. We reported in a previous post that the trip was not a last minute decision, and instead, adults were discussing it in local bars on Friday night. Alleged Delphi Killer Richard Allen Serial Killer? Also I have some messages from a woman who knew Mr. X and his wife and says BGs voice is a dead ringer for Mr. X. However, the photos I will discuss today are from this video. Your comment is appreciated! Ive been trying to cut comments off at 200 and then start a new page. Theres a lot of graphic commentary below, including gruesome descriptions of the brutal murders of two young teenage girls. Its not so much the sign of a lousy writer as the sign of a writer, as in a born writer, a real writer. This is the official web site for the Delphi Community High School Classes of 1880 - 2014. Propane is propane, but our service is where we separate . Oh88 or punks with candles painting their fingernails black. Assuming he did it, see how he contaminated the scene by finding the bodies? Leaving a gut knife at the scene is unverified and seems quite dubious. But we never had any idea that a gun was fired during this crime! We only know that it was discharged. Its no surprise to me. The crime may have been plotted for four months prior to carrying it out. Allen has been arrested in connection with the 2017 double homicide of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. We are not going to say which girl it was. Therefore the rumor that BG sent photos of the crime to Abbys phone seems to be true. We got this secondhand from a LE source. Photo by: FBI/South Carolina Sex Offender Registry. Based on the recent verification we got from LE, we regard as it quite possibly true, but it would be nice to get some more confirmation. His truck was at the cemetery maybe to be a getaway car or maybe to go back at 6 PM at try to find his car keys, in which case it was originally at the CPS building and then he moved it over to the cemetery at 6 PM. There isnt one mention of this guy anywhere. "Devastated," said Dan McCain, long-time community organizer in Delphi, at word from police that they were treating the deaths of the two Delphi Community Middle School students as a double. The thump sound is thought to be BG hitting her over the head with a blunt object. A gigantic stuffed animal. On February 13, or 2-13. Nevertheless, I suppose it remains formally unverified, and keep in mind some of our LE sources have told us false things. Everyone is so worried about falsely accusing innocent individuals, but people forget that those falsely accused are usually vindicated. On the afternoon of Feb. 13th, 2017, best friends Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off at a bridge in the town of Delphi. Not to mention this guys life would be in danger. So does Mr. X look and sound like B.G.? If its a stunt, which it could be and seems likely, it will probably be the last straw for AG before he loses ALL of his followers. Instead, we believe that they were handcuffed. He abducted and murdered 2 girls, one of whom was 13 years old. Abby may well have been knocked out cold by this blow. Ok he left it in his car? I also have read that he has hunted with Greeno before. This person said the detective had told them that the girls bodies were violated with sticks and branches, in particular, that sticks had been inserted into the girls vaginas and anuses. Pure effervescent enrichment. Did he fire them into the girls dead bodies? Im not talking about beating around the bushes of masking facts and truths as I did above with the documents statement. First of all, about the purpose of this website. How about getting your moneys worth? About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . Although Mr. X claims that he called his wife to come bring an extra set of car keys, his truck stayed there overnight and into the next day, which seems odd. Im certain the girls kept that secret. Time has eroded the evidence (witnesses, crime scene, etc.) She must have commented after I watched it as I had read the comments. Id appreciate it if people would leave this fellow alone. Counting hazy cases like this, I count four false confessions so far. The purpose of this site has simply been a clearinghouse for rumors about the Delphi Murders on Abby Williams and Libby German in Delphi, Indiana, on February 13, 2017. The girl thinks he believes it himself because hes so far gone on drugs. Except you never get the peak high, and theres no post-high crash. Perhaps the most amazing information of all is that this was a gun crime! The Monon High Bridge trail attracts hunters, fishers, campers and kids hiking or just taking photos of the popular spot. Dolls scattered around the scene. But what shocks me is how little these men give their audiences in return for their purchases. They will try 2 convict anyone 2 get attention. This rumor was affirmed by Leaker. Itll be fun., Give Light and the People Will Find Their Own Way. Tell you what. I agree with Kelly who says that killers who pose victims (posers) are some of the worst ones of all. Orsolya Gaal Unsolved Homicide April 16, 2022 Queens NY. We dont know. Stroup and Greenos caller claims to have killed the woman who arranged to have the girls murdered and to have his [the callers] DNA placed at the scene. To me this implies that she tried to run. True crime is a nasty beast by its nature. Ill pray for Greeno so he doesnt ruin his new career by the temptation to manufacture drama by making it up (like for ratings God-forbid!). She has kids with him and also said the Jennifer women he spoke about is alive and embarrassed of the situation. You can see how BG was loaded up with all that murder equipment. Anyway, what do you think editors are for? Mr X. is thick as thieves with the McBrothers and the Carroll County Sheriff I believe L&As tragic murders are connected to a much more sinister set of crimes. Hes very good at what he does. Glad you are back! The author is a theoretical physicist. Nothing gets someone to do (or not do) what you want them to like a threat or violent action against a family member. LE feels it was disabled prior to the crime. And the owners acted very strange when we asked if the barn had been used in the crime. The weather here is fit for Polar Bears and few else. A previous report stated that the girls were bound with ropes around their backs. Ashley Milburn (Pearson) (2016) 2/2 Tim Malott (1973) 2/2 Cheryl Vianco (Burks) (1984) 1/22 Steven Seele (1979) 1/19 . Nevertheless, a lot of tender folks freak out on such things. will walk scot-free. The girls had not responded to calls at 3:11pm from Libbys Father and did not report to a designated pickup spot around 3:30pm at the trailhead. He was alone, walking with his hands in his pockets (as BG did on the bridge), he was looking at guns and fishing equipment (BG is suspected of having a gun), he kept looking at her suspiciously. How many homicidal maniacs are out there? She was also stabbed in the main artery of her neck. INDIANAPOLIS -- While Daniel Nations remains behind bars in Colorado, his wife spoke with WTTV about her husband being named a person of interest in the deaths of two teenage hikers in Delphi . This guy is juiced in with local authorities and runs with the Good Ol Boy network. Can only guess at this point. Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at 844-459-5786 Indiana State Police at 800-382-7537 The Carroll County Sheriff's Department at 765-564-2413 Email Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com I can only hope that justice is served for Abby and Libby and that their families are one day able to find peace. I hope at the least there is really a guy who called and made these claims even though what he claims doesnt sound like it will hold water. Police also released a very brief audio clip of the suspect taken from that same video. Venters took Roe's advice and prepared the memorandum. According to Leaker, the only DNA on the girls bodies is from Kelsi, Libbys sister. I dont see any reference to the date on the video. John Kelly, retired FBI profiler who does excellent work and now makes his living being a media figure, felt in this recent video that the sexual tableau referred to the girls being posed in some sort of a lesbian sex act. After I do that, I will discuss rumors that have more credibility. Plain and straight forth with no fallacious reasoning. I suppose I should go over some of these old dead rumors because idiots keep accusing us of pushing these theories. We are not even sure where or when he lost them. If Mr. Xs truck was not there the whole time, it is possible that he left his phone at the building for several hours while he committed the crime. Comment Page 5 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicides of Abby and Libby, Delphi Homicide Abby Williams Libby German Indiana serial killer, http://www.kktv.com/content/news/BREAKING-Human-remains-found-in-Teller-County-476433893.html, Comment Page 2 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicide of Abby and Libby Closed for comments, Comment Page 3 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicide of Abby and Libby, Comment Page 4 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicides of Abby and Libby, Comment Page 6 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicides of Abby and Libby. Daniel Nations has multiple mugshots from charges including domestic battery, driving on a suspended license and drugs in Johnson, Bartholomew, Morgan and Marion counties in Indiana. If he wants to be recognized as a legitimate media source then he needs to research. Here is the first onesomeone make sense of this, please. On what day did this crime occur? It has to be at least 4 characters long and I havent thought of what Id like to replace FMJ with yet. Im not sure of the details and I dont know how they know. A white Dodge Dart is not involved in the case. X? I would estimate that 95% of the rumors I have printed about this case have proven to be false. Excuse me for suspecting that a guy who making videos almost literally confessing to being BG might actually be the killer! Kelsi has been cleared. A previous report said that at least two searchers touched the bodies and one tried to revive the girls with mouth to mouth resuscitation. Nothing but blurs. They also were into ritualswarlocks, etc. This last one was it for me. Thats a gross violation of journalistic ethics, and Im an ethical journalist. They barely knew the girls were missing at 6 pm. Daniel Nations' last known address was in Martinsville, Indiana, which is about 100 miles from Delphi. According to Katelyn, the couple watched news coverage of Abby and Libby's murder, and while Daniel looks a lot like the suspect's composite sketch, Katelyn said there are things that don't match. To me other than the glaring obvious eye q test that Mr X passes with flying colors (its so obviously him from that alone that this whole case is actually quite embarrassing on LEs behalf if you ask me), if it can be confirmed via Logan, thats it for me. In addition, the document says that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of the crime. Dont read. They made it (DelphiCaseDiscussion) private membership because they say DelphiMurders is not moderated and theres too much nonsense being posted. Even the most abused notions have a proper application. A hiker found Lamberts skull about 250 yards off the Ring the Peak trail on Friday. Those who think Mr. X is the killer think he never did find the keys he lost at the crime scene. 2:13 and 2/13. Thats all Im going to say about that. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a99688251296d54bb90f8da91ef0d11e" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. it may also explain why I get the feeling Stroup has distanced himself from this vid. Is there any place on record that Ron Logan confirms Mr X asked to search his property? However, his middle name is different. In the 1850 census of Nash County: farmer Dempsey Taylor, 35; wife Eliza, 33; and children Margaret A., 4, Sarah, 2, and Delphi, 7 months; and Jane, 12. That's 10 days after Libby and Abby were murdered. And this guy claims he killed this Jennifer, police know he did this and have the ashes. A youngster who livedacross the street from Etter says she did not feel good when he tried to strike up a conversation with her. He has also lived in Greenwood. While Daniel Nations remains behind bars in Colorado, his wife spoke exclusively to FOX59 News about her husband being named a person of interest in the Delphi double murders. He was over with his truck between 2:00 and 3:00 and it was about 5:30 when the police came by," said neighbor Chadwell Rhymer. The pixelated images released by investigators dont offer much to go on as the mans facial features cannot be seen. I really was trying to see where they went with their videos. I dont see how anyone could believe that crazy story. One which I have no answer to at all. Owner -> Professional -> Fellow sleuther -> Me. I dont know if this would help otherswhen I read comments I press the Little comment alert bell in the upper right hand corner. On February 14th, shortly after Noon, their bodies were discovered by searchers less than a quarter mile from the Monon High Bridge in which was their last known location based on a photo posted to Snapchat at 2:07pm. Could explain the white truck/van, and why LE have not been able to link it to BG/Mr. Thx for stopping by, Paul. I dont blame you. Problem is its not free. It keeps he from missing any comments. We have been saying all along that the killer must have known the girls were going to be there that day, and he came quite amply prepared to commit this specific crime. I can post them on the private site if you want to join, but its not free. We now regard this rumor as probably false and unconfirmed to say the least. Perhaps they are posed in a milder, less than obvious one. I guess well know soon enough. On his Facebook he made a comment like that videos all on Greeno when people asked what it was about., QuarterMileOfNasty He did this to humiliate the girls after their deaths. He is a pastor who lives in Lafayette. but he told them they are under arrest. A previous report said that Abby was raped via PIV sex and fluids were left at the scene. A fasifiability is a thing, and not even wrong is on the tip of everyones tongue. Only new items and old items that have changed will be listed here. They have pathologically doubted everything and anything that anyone ever said about this crime. Theres a guy in the Bay Area who killed little girls over a period of 10-15 years. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. BG accosted the girls and appears to have pulled his gun on them. The woman and her children followed the guy around and alerted store personnel who then also watched the man until he quickly purchased an item and left the store. Unbelievable. Unfortunately, just after being admitted membership I saw bubbafudpucker was a member. And we dont know if any of these three have been searched by police either. He controlled them with the gun. A gut knife is one of the knives that would be present in that deer kit (a deer hunters kit containing five knives) that BG has around his waist. Cops are investigating whetherrape suspect Paul Etter is connected to the deaths of 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German, who were abducted and killed as they walked along a railway trestle outside Delphi, Indiana, on Feb. 13, 2017. Delphi Homicides: New Information Released on 2/12/21. All will be forgotten. If they can crack that alibi somehow, they can make an arrest, except the alibi is dead! Fine. The problem here is that LE hasnt told us a damned thing. I dont know. What follows, according to the families of the girls who LE played the tape for, is six minutes of garbled conversation in which the girls and BG are talking as they walk through the woods, the sound of the forest floor crunching beneath their feet. I dont have a comment bell? Im not saying its true, people. Im pretty sure they have the DNA of the main suspect. Once again, we see forward planning for this crime. Afraid of that one last knock on the door before the jail bars clang shut. I dont believe nothing they say. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. LE was unable to break Mr. Xs alibi via his friend. Daniel Nations was arrested in April of 2016 in Greenwood for driving on a suspended license and having marijuana in his vehicle. A) An abduction/assault attempt (via a catfish scenario) that went wrong, so the girls had to be killed. I suppose they use that to uncover those unseen bloodstains. If you read the comments section in this You Tube video, the man in questions ex wife or partner commented saying he is an addict and acts irrational when using drugs. They were presumably taken from the part of the footage where you can see many flashes going off in a circle around a location in the woods. Finally, a woman came to me and apologized. They will lose what small amount of credibility theyve gained. 1997) case opinion from the US Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit . She was the woman who was last seen in Teller County in September. All the evidence against him is interesting, but its not enough to take it to court. Were the lost keys found? Their trying 2 get as many hits they can off the internet. So, Greeno has closed his youtube account. https://chicago.cbslocal.com TT, the comments dont line up the best and it can be super difficult to find old posts, but I like the way you communicate (and direct), and I like & appreciate everyones contributions. Who is Jennifer? Who is the guy in the video? I cannot find anyone. I was trying to say that despite those issues this is a really great blog. Of course thats not enough for a conviction but it helps to solidify suspicions in LEs and in ours, frankly. So every time you hear people bashing the Hell out of this site for something we printed, keep in mind that that was just some rumor we heard and printed. All the fandoms you could wish for. Photo by: FBI National Sex Offender Registry. Who is the you tuber the video is refering to? Is the bisexual person a male? Maybe the guy was acting oddly because he is odd, which isnt a crime, or maybe he was wondering why she and her children were suspiciously watching him? 1415 Shelby Street. Presumably they simply drove back to the house though, leaving his car there all night until it was towed the next day. Dn needs 2 stop talking 2 them. But thats how it goes in this business. Maybe, but the professional would not do something like that. Instead, their families are holding on to the hope that this is the year their killer is brought to justice. I only go onto Reddit when someone posts a link here that they want us to take a look at. Oh my. Permission was granted. The White Dodge Dart: We formerly thought this had something to do with the crime. Police Release New Audio and Video of Suspect in Murders of 2 Indiana Teens, Indiana Police ID Alleged Killer of College Student Pamela Milam Nearly 50 Years After Her Death, How a Real-Life 'Phantom of the Opera' Murdered a Young Violinist at the Met in 1980, Neighbors in Delphi, Indiana, Hope Teens' Killer Comes Forward. OK. This was not a gun crime in that a gun was not the murder weapon. #Daniel Pearson delphi @truecrimegaragefan. I dont have the answer. However, cellphone data is generally not admissible in court, and anyway, Mr. X can always say that he was elsewhere and his phone just happened to be pinging at the CPS building looking for a signal, so this evidence cannot be used in court. Keep in mind that for the above to be true, BG must have constructed this entire Disney World Crime Scene in a mere 45 minutes! I dont know their voices and just assumed it was Stroup. 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